Michael Elegbede travelled to the United
States of America to study medicine. But after his pre-medicine studies
at the University of Illinois, Chicago, he gave them up to become a
chef. Though he said his decision shocked his parents who wanted him to
become a medical doctor, Elegbede told Peter Uzoho that he has no
regrets over his decision.
You are an up and coming chef, how did you learn how to cook?
I’m a chef in Nigeria. I just returned
back to Nigeria about two months ago after 13 years in the United States
of America, to really focus on Nigerian food and cuisine. And my
background in food is rooted in my upbringing; my grandmother and my
mother are both cooks. My grandmother studied culinary arts during the
colonisation of Nigeria from a French chef that resided in Nigeria at
the time. My mother naturally learnt how to cook from my grandmother and
she became a cook. When she got to the United States of America, she
went to the Le Cordon Blue to get her culinary degree as a pastry chef.
It’s no surprise that I became a chef as
well. However, it didn’t begin that way. My parents won a visa lottery
to the United States of America and they left my brother and I with my
grandmother while they went to settle down there. We spent about eight
years with my grandmother and during that time, I had the opportunity to
learn about food and cooking and fall in love with cooking with my
grandmother without really knowing that was what I was going to be doing
for the rest of my life.
Eventually, we moved to the States when I
was 13 to meet my parents. At that point, I had no perception of
becoming a chef. I went to high school, and when I finished, I attended
college at the University of Illinois, Chicago, to study pre-medicine
because I was good in sciences. Naturally, this automatically meant I
was going to be a doctor. So after my years doing undergrad in
pre-medicine, I realised that this cooking is more than just a hobby,
it’s something that I want to do for the rest of my life. So I enrolled
at the Culinary Institute of America in Greystone Napa Valley, CA which
is said to be the Harvard of culinary schools in America. There, I
experienced a completely different way of cooking; a very personal and
in-depth way of understanding food. Food and cooking became more than
what I did to fill the stomach of hungry folks, but a holistic
phenomenon that is capable of communicating to all the senses, insinuate
memories, inspire artistically, and natural.
During school I had the opportunity to
do my internship at Eleven Madison Park Restaurant in New York and upon
completion of culinary school; I got hired to be a full time chef.
Eleven Madison Park being a three Michelin star restaurant, as well as
the fourth best restaurant in the world, instilled in me standards that
are necessary to cook food in a beautiful and philosophical way. It was a
struggle being alone in the kitchen, the only black man at the time and
more so the only African in the kitchen, I felt out of place. But the
more I came in there every day, the more I fall in love with what I was
cooking. And I knew I was there for a reason and my reason was to learn,
and I just kept pushing and kept doing everything I was supposed to do.
Sooner or later, I became part of the
team. The farther I moved up the ladder, the better I understood what it
meant to cook at such a high level. There came a point in my career
where I was like, I love what I’m doing but there is something missing.
And I realised that for me it means my foundation in food which is
Nigerian food. My foundation, was falling in love with food with my
grandmother and my mother.
And I realised that somehow, I have to
incorporate my background with my new found love with culinary art. To
do that, I have to really rethink what it means to cook Nigerian food.
And rethinking what it means to cook Nigerian food is really, completely
wiping it off the plate and redoing the plate. What that meant to me
was re-envisioning what it means to eat eba, what it means to eat amala,
what it means to experience bole or suya, and in the way that I now
understand cuisine and how food can be cooked .
Through that I started this testing menu
series in New York, where I would do a seven to eight course testing
menu that people would pay a certain amount and they would come and eat
different courses that are Nigerian-inspired, like a corn dish that has
popcorn or steamed corn; like just bringing in the cuisine to the
people. And people fall in love with it. People experienced Nigerian
food in the way they’ve never experienced any African dish before
because they were able to see that food is not just spice and starch on a
plate; that there are so many other flavours and complexities to our
food. After doing this for a while, there was still a longing to do it.
I felt that, it was important for me to
do it for our own people, not for anyone else. Not for what the
international community thought of us. And I want to cook Nigerian food
for Nigerians in the way that they can be inspired. Chimamanda Ngozi
Adichie, Nigerian prose writer, I watched her talk “I care more about
what Africans think about Africa than what anyone else thinks of
Africa.” That was very inspiring for me. So I realised that it was time
for me to come back to Nigeria to see what it means to make this idea
come to reality and that seed is now fruiting a restaurant that is here
in Nigeria called ‘Itan’. Itan means story in Yoruba.
So the idea is that, this restaurant
tells the story of the Nigerian people; the culture, the diverse ethnic
groups, the extent of our produce, our sea food. A lot of things that
are embedded and integrated inside Nigeria. Things that are real to our
culture. We have over 320 ethnic groups, with very diverse techniques to
food and food is one thing I believe brings everyone together. I want
this restaurant to embody a cradle aspect of that.
When are you going to open the Itan Restaurant to the public?
We’re hoping to open the restaurant in the middle of next year and it’s going to be located in Victoria Island, Lagos.
How spacious is the restaurant and what is the staff strength?
It’s not a small place, but it’s not a
giant place either. We’re planning to have about 50 seats at any given
time people come into the place. For the staff strength, we’re going to
have about 15 to 20 people maximum in the kitchen, and 15 to 20 people
outside dining area as well, making it 40 people that will be working in
the restaurant at any given time.
At what age did you start cooking?
When I was very young and from that
moment I started peeling potatoes for meat pie when I was less than five
years old, when I started watching my mother cook food. Both my mother
and my grandmother owned a restaurant here in Nigeria.
They also had structures where they
taught young women apprenticeship in Nigeria; where there was a caterer
teaching people how to cook. My grandmother had cooking school that
graduated up to 60 people at a time in Aguda, and every time there would
be a new set of students coming in to learn how to cook, how to bake, I
would like to go into the kitchen; I would try showing them some
techniques. I would like to correct them. I would be like, that’s not
how to roll a meat pie, and they were like, what does this little boy
know. I think just being in that environment really inspired my love for
cooking without really knowing it. If anyone had asked me even when I
was 13, if I was going to be a chef, I would have been like, of course
not. But that’s just what I love to do. As a male coming from Nigeria,
the idea of a man cooking in the kitchen as a career is not something
that can be easily understood. I think I fall in love with cooking
before I even thought it would be a career.
What is your best delicacy?
I love pounded yam and egusi soup with some fresh foods like croaker fish or prawns.
You talked about leaving Nigeria for the
US and that your parents wanted you to study medicine but you ended up
becoming a chef. How did they take your decision?
Shocking! To my mum, not much because
she had a restaurant in Chicago as well. Every time, after school in
High school, I was at the restaurant cooking. I was the chief cook in
the restaurant. The name of the restaurant is Jumidell Restaurant. It
was an award-winning restaurant. And telling my father was the hardest
because it’s hard for a Nigerian man to see his first son say he wants
to be a cook and he was like, how are you going to be happy in life. You
should just go to medical school, become a doctor, may be you can then
open a restaurant. I was like what is the point. Why should I go to
medical school, become a medical doctor and after that I open a
restaurant. Why will I go to medical school, then become a doctor, after
that, I open a restaurant. And he was like, what are you going to tell
your friends in Nigeria. He took it as such a shameful thing for me to
do.
But for me it was more like, how can
something I love so much be bad. He left me to finish that decision and
for my mother, once she realised that that was what I wanted that will
make me happy in life she gave me her full support.
No matter what anyone says, I feel that
we all have a calling in life and the meaning of life is finding that
calling and hopefully using that calling to impact the world around you.
For me, food is that calling that I find myself to be passionate about.
And in everything that I do, I’m hoping to use this my love to impact
my world, which is another reason why I’m here in Nigeria. I think
Nigerian food is being underrated. I could cook and be in love with food
anyway. That’s not a problem, but how can I do it without being
meaningful and impactful in this life that I’m living. That’s one of the
reasons why I’m here. I have no regrets over my decision.
Recently, you participated in the Guarantee Trust Bank food and drink fair in Lagos. Can you tell us about the food fair?
It was a great experience. I was the
keynote speaker in the event where I got to demonstrate a dish to a
group of people and it was very exciting. The other exciting part was
where I had Itan Restaurant featured in the event and everyone seemed to
see how the restaurant would be. It was very exciting for me.
We had some cassava chips for people to
taste and it was funny. People started arguing with us that the cassava
chips were not cassava chips; that there had to be some other vegetable.
That was because, the only way they’ve ever had cassava was in fufu or
in any other form of pounded starch way. So when they saw it as a chip
and they found that it was sweet. They were like there is no way this
can be cassava.
It was also exciting to see how they
interacted with the dishes and how they found it very exciting, and they
were like, oh! My God, this is Nigerian food and it looked so
beautiful. It’s not just a pounded meal and stew. There is much more to
it, it’s beautiful, it’s autistic and it inspires. So it was quite
exciting.
What kind of food did you cook?
We had a five course tasting menu where
we had our first course as avocado pear with plantain and cassava chips,
with Hibiscuspikled, onions, and slices of tomatoes. Then, in the
second course, we had mango pawpaw salad with candid cashew,
agbalumovinaigrette and citrus segment.
Then after that, we had prawn. It was
very exciting because prawn and pepper soup fit together. So we were
thinking of how pepper soup can be served. A lot of time when we eat
pepper soup, it’s always very spicy. So we decided that we were going do
a more flavourful take on pepper soup with really delicately cooked
prawn with it. We had braised lamb dish with pounded yam and egusi,
which was a bit favourite for most people. That was what we gave them at
the GT Bank event and it was quite exciting.
You are invited as one of the
keynote speaker to this year’s International Food Design Conference
taking place New Zealand. What is it all about?
For the International Food Design
Conference in New Zealand, it’s where food designers from around the
world are invited to come and talk about the progress of food and I’m
privileged to be one of the keynote speakers at this year’s event. It’s a
big day to me because I’m the first and the best person to keynote this
event. I’m proud to be the first African and more proud to be the first
Nigerian to be invited as a keynote speaker to the event. I’m even more
excited to share our food at that event, because one thing that they
want to see is the fact that they don’t see African food in the culinary
spotlight. But the way I’m beginning to idealise and present our food
is making it more inviting and making it more experience based.
They want to understand the inspiration
behind this innovation in our cuisine that I’m portraying. So I think
the food revolution in Nigeria also is motivating people to want to
understand what it means that Nigerians love so much about their food.
Seeing what I’m doing with Nigerian food which I lectured at the Otago
University, which are the people coordinating this international food
design conference, they contacted me to see if I could be one of their
international keynote speakers and I was very excited to be part of it.
When is the event coming up?
The event is coming up from June 29 to July 3 and I be in New Zealand from June 20 till July 8.
You talked about food revolution
in Nigeria. What is your assessment of the food revolution in the
country. Are we getting it right?
Yes! I think for the most part, we’re
getting it right. I think we’re getting to the awareness of what we’re
eating and the understanding that there is so much to food than just eba
and the starches. We’re diversifying what we eat and realising that
food can become more than just eating events; when you’re hungry, you
just stuff your face with food. We’re realising that you can actually be
creative with food. I’m seeing a lot of events where people are eating
food as arts, using food as a means of interaction and it’s such a base
to our core.
As humans we need food to live and
seeing the revolution in Nigeria, taking it to what we are typically
taking it to be useful and elevate the sense. We are understanding that
it’s important that we eat less imported food and more food that is
grown in Nigeria, because it’s not only good for us but also good for
our economy and the more we appreciate the food here and the produce
here the better it is for our country. Understanding the techniques to
diversify how to use those ingredients is also important for us not to
be bored with food. So I’m really excited and proud of the food
revolution in Nigeria.
What is your assessment of hotels and restaurants in Nigeria in terms of meeting international standards?
I think there is a big movement for
finer dining in Nigeria. Even in the more local dining and eating, you
see a better sense of service. You go to a restaurant in Victoria Island
and you see them having really standardised and well put together
restaurants where people can go into and eat. They serve very well and
many are using more inspirational food in their menu.
What I would like see more is more focus
on our traditional food in the restaurants. You go to the classiest and
finest restaurants; you see that a lot of them are trying to bring
international food more here in Nigeria, which is good. One thing I like
about New York is that it is the epicentre of cuisines all over the
world. I believe Nigeria, Lagos specifically has the platform to be the
epicentre of food from so many different places in Africa and even other
places in the world. But, one thing that we have to do before we know
everyone else is that it’s important we know ourselves before we know
anyone else. So I see really amazing things happening in the restaurants
from the amala booker to the finest dining places in Victoria Island.
I think we’re growing in our
understanding of the ingredients we are using and the ones we are not
using. We are not using MSG again as much anymore and that’s something
that everyone has to feel like this is bad for my health, I won’t accept
from eating anywhere than eating at home. So that awareness I think is
being driven by restaurants as well. So I ‘m seeing a lot of great
things in the restaurants in Nigeria and I see a brighter future for our
country.
You talked about going into
cooking and how people will perceive it, when you came back to Nigeria
how did your friends receive you?
Oh! With joy, with so much support. I
don’t think I was surprised. Nigeria is a very accepting place. You see
the best makeup artists now in Nigeria. So many men are into fashion and
are being accepted, admired for that. Things that are typically,
seemingly feminine in our culture, are now things that men can do and
they are okay.
So coming into Nigeria, especially, with
my knowledge internationally, it was easy. Because, they were like,
what have you brought for us? I brought cooking techniques for us to
learn. It was very warming and inviting. My family were very supportive
and my friends very excited and asking me when I would come to cook for
them. It’s been great; I have zero negative reaction for what I do.
With your experience and your
knowledge in cooking, are you in the nearest future thinking of setting
up a training centre where you can train the younger ones?
In the future hopefully in Nigeria, I
also plan having a restaurant that the kitchen can be a place for
training people who are passionate about cooking and about food. They
can come through and learn the details that hopefully, inspire a high
level knowledge about food through that channel.
You know food and agriculture
have a link, the present government at the national level has said
agriculture is the way to go. Are we really there?
I think we’re getting there. I think
what is important is that we continue to push agriculture, because over
the years, we’ve really depleted in our internal produce when it comes
to agriculture. Apart from just growing base, we need more
infrastructures, a better processing of those things that we are
producing and better ways of transporting them. This is where people
like me come in; better ways of utilising them. For instance, in Otupo,
Benue State, there are mango trees everywhere. We shouldn’t be wasting
so much food. But the bad part is that there are insufficient ways of
using food in Nigeria. So this is the part where we can work with the
agricultural sector to diversify the use of our produce. So it has to be
more than yes, let everyone move into agriculture to grow more food.
There has to be diversified ways of using those foods grown.
What is your message to Nigerians especially to youths?
I think it’s time for we young ones to
really look at the things that we love to do; the things that nothing
will stop you from doing them; things that will help our society. Not
everyone was born to become a doctor or a lawyer.
So, focus on what you love doing and
finding that, invest your time, invest your everything and grow in it.
Because with the state of Nigeria now, everyone is talking about
diversifying our economy and what does that mean? It means that we have
so many parts in the professional and business sectors that are not
being accessed.
Most people focus on the five core
professions, but I know farmers that are richer than bankers in the
United States, because they are focused on the produce from their farms.
So my biggest message will be, do what you love and do it well.
Sacrifice your time, sacrifice everything you have and you can see that
the future is bright. If you do it well, if you’re focused, you will
make it.
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