Global Research, Economics &
Strategy
Wells Fargo Securities’ Economics
Department recently released a report entitled,
The Girl with the Draggin’ W-2, which explores the complexities of the gender pay gap.
Following publication, we received many questions from interested readers.
Diane Schumaker-Krieg, Global Head of Research, Economics, & Strategy
for Wells Fargo Securities, responds to these questions below.
·What were the most surprising results of the study? Despite
huge advances in technology and the ability to work remotely, the highest
paying jobs continue to reward those who can work the longest and least
flexible hours. Physically showing up at the office (or wherever you’re
required to be) is still a prerequisite for getting ahead. And that puts
primary caregivers —usually
working moms —at a disadvantage.
·Why haven’t we closed the gender gap? Why has progress
stalled?
Because society hasn’t fully
accepted that fixing the problem for women means we also have to fix the
problem for men. Both men and women need greater flexibility in their lives.
Yet, it is still difficult for men to tell their employers they need time off
to take their child to the doctor or to tell new acquaintances at a barbecue
that they’re stay-at-home dads. Until these evolving realities are more socially
accepted, the costs/burdens will fall on women. Some of the most successful
women in our Research division have spouses that are full-time dads. In fact, Jodi Kantor of The New York Times wrote
an insightful piece a couple of
years ago, “Wall Street Mothers,
Stay-Home Fathers”that features three
senior women in my department.
·Given that female enrollment in college is surpassing that
of men, why aren’t we seeing increased pay parity?Actually we are. The wage gap
would be six percent higher if women were not out-achieving men educationally.1But women are more likely than men
to major in fields that pay less upon graduation —for example, education and social work versus computer
science and engineering.
·Talk about the role that cultural and societal expectations
play. Is part of the problem that women don’t advocate for themselves or seek
out sponsors? What remains unexplained about the gender pay gap? Not advocating
for oneself forcefully enough is certainly a factor. A well-known Carnegie Mellon study showed that men are four times
more likely than women to ask for a raise and when women do ask, they typically
request 30 percent less
than men 2.This may be rational because women
are viewed more negatively for asking! Of course, if you don’t ask, the answer
is always “no.”
·Another factor is women’s tolerance forrisk and failure.
There are many studies showing that men will apply for a job if they meet just
60 percent of the qualifications, while women
feel they need to be 100 percent qualified. This fear of failure is a big factor holding women back.
And women tend to be over-mentored and under-sponsored.
Mentors can be great sounding boards, but their influence on one’s career
trajectory often ends with advice. On the other hand, sponsors tend to be senior
executives who can publically advocate on behalf of their protégés and
accelerate their advancement. Women are 50 percent less likely than men to have
a sponsor.
3Finally,
women often don’t get the benefit of honest performance feedback because male
managers are reluctant to provide it, fearing an “emotional response” or risk
to their own careers.
·Are there specific industries that perpetuate stereotypes
and gender barriers?
I have worked on Wall Street for
most of my career, and it has certainly gotten a lot better, especially on the
trading floor. But overall, hard-charging
occupations like investment banking, private equity, venture capital and
M&A are more difficult for anyone, not just women, who need more
flexibility. One of the advantages of working in Research is that while there
is a great deal of travel and frequent client dinners, there is no penalty for writing
a research report at your kitchen table at 3 A.M. So even within hard
-charging
occupations, there are opportunities for flexibility.
·What is the economic reasoning behind closing the gender
gap? Greater labor force participation —many
women are now on the sidelines because after factoring in the cost of childcare
(which has grown more than twice as fastas median household income
4),
for many, it doesn’t pay to work. A McKinsey Global Institute study indicated
that full gender equality could add 11% to 26% to global GDP by 2025 —a staggering $12 to $28trillion.
5One
positive factor is women returning to the workforce and working late into their
60’s and even 70’s. Nearly 30 percent of women aged 65-69 are working (up from 15 percent in thelate 80’s).
·How can businesses benefit from closing the gender pay gap?
Do you think corporations are realizing this? For businesses, closing the
gender pay gap would not only attract more women but just as importantly help
businesses retain the high-caliber
women they already have by making it more economical for working moms to stay
in the game. And of course there are countless studies showing that more
diverse companies simply perform better —higher
ROE, higher sales growth and stronger corporate oversight. That’s because
they’re tapping into a deeper pool of talent that mirrors the diversity of
their customers and discourages groupthink.
·Are there any policy solutions —either in the legislative or private sector that would help
to move the needle forward? On the legislative front, I think it’s very
interesting that the state of Massachusetts now makes it illegal to ask a job
applicant about their prior compensation
.6This could be a huge step forward, sincewomen are generally
paid less and asking for prior compensation perpetuates the wage gap.In the UK,
companies with 250 or more employees must publish their gender pay gaps within
the next year under a new legal requirement and will be encouraged to detail an
action plan to address inequities.7In the private sector, shareholders can and should hold
companies accountable. In fact, nine tech companies were asked by shareholders
to study compensation and commit to closing the pay gap. Several of them publicly
made commitments to do so. Amazon, Apple and Intel have reported that they’re
near 100 percent pay parity.8
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